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At a critical time in the economic cycle, uncover how leading PE firms are driving value creation through human capital.
Join 250+ operating specialists at the Operating Partners Human Capital Forum to connect, collaborate, and empower your talent team for the future.

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“It was such a great experience deepening relationships across such a collaborative community.”

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SVP, Talent, Tide Rock

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Partner and Head of Talent, American Industrial Partners

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OP, Cressey & Company

Join discussions with leading PE operating specialists

Uncover key strategies to accelerate transformation through human capital, including:

  • Tactical sessions on managing CEO annual reviews
  • The impact of the macro climate on the talent function
  • Real world AI case studies for human capital specialists
  • The CEO perspective on the talent function
  • Examining the impact of tech on human capital
  • Heads of value creation insights into operating models
  • And more…

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Accel-KKR
Advent International
American Industrial Partners
Arcline Investment Management
Argosy Capital Group
Arsenal Capital Partners
Ascend Partners
Aterian Investment Partners
Audax Group
Bain Capital
Berkshire Partners
Blackstone
The Carlyle Group
Centerbridge Partners
Crestview Partners
Dyal Capital
EQT Partners
FFL Partners
Frazier Healthcare Partners
Gauge Capital
General Atlantic
Generate Capital
Georgian Partners
Goldman Sachs
Great Hill Partners
Gryphon Investors
GTCR
HCI Equity Partners
HGGC
H.I.G. Capital
JLL Partners
JMI Equity
Kelso & Company
Keystone Capital Management
Leonard Green
Level Equity Management
LightBay Capital
Lightyear Capital
Madison Dearborn Partners
Mainsail Partners
MidOcean Partners
Mubadala
New State Capital Partners
Norwest Equity Partners
Oak Hill Capital
One Rock Capital
Onex
Paine Schwartz Partners
ParkerGale
Platform Partners
Platinum Equity
Prairie Capital
PSG
Resolve Growth
Rotunda Capital Partners
Searchlight Capital Partners
Serent Capital
Sheridan Capital Partners
Spectrum Equity
Summit Partners
Sycamore Partners
Ta Associates
Tailwind Capital
The Riverside Company
The Sterling Group
Thomas H Lee Partners
Thompson Street Capital
TJC
TowerBrook
Trivest Partners
Vector Capital
Vistria Group
Warburg Pincus
Welsh, Carson, Anderson & Stowe
WestCap
Wind Point Partners

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“This was an incredible opportunity to step away from the day to day hustle and devote time to my own professional development by connecting and learning from my peers in the industry. I truly forgot the value that can come from being in the room with those who are in a similar position – even if our firms are of different size & scale and industry focus.”

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Talent Director, Granite Partners

The event agenda covers human capital value creation challenges and opportunities for private equity and portfolio companies.

If you are interested in a speaking role please contact Marc Mele at marc.m@pei.group.

 

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Agenda

Day 1 - Tuesday 25th

07:30 - 09:15

Registration and breakfast

Think Tank Series I
07:50 - 08:30

Think Tank 1 - HR operations (for operating partners only)

Elizabeth Blake

Led by your peers, this closed-door discussion will allow you to learn and share best practices of successful human capital and talent operating partners. 

Facilitator:
Elizabeth Blake, Operations Vice President, Human Capital, Trive Capital

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Elizabeth Blake

Operations Vice President, Human Capital, Trive Capital

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07:50 - 08:30

Think Tank 2 - Executive/C-Suite talent strategy (for operating partners only)

Kristin Patrick

Led by your peers, this closed-door discussion will allow you to learn and share best practices of successful human capital and talent operating partners.

Facilitator:
Kristin Brown Patrick, Senior Operating Partner, Human Capital, New State Capital Partners

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Kristin Patrick

Senior Operating Partner, Human Capital, New State Capital Partners

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07:50 - 08:30

Think Tank 3 - Training for new and emerging talent specialists (1-2 years in PE) (for operating partners only)

Led by your peers, this closed-door discussion will allow you to learn and share best practices of successful human capital and talent operating partners. 

Breakfast Deep Dive Series I
08:30 - 09:15

Human capital deep dive breakfast discussion 1 (for operating partners only): New approaches to org design and transformation: sharing playbooks from real-world companies

This interactive deep dive will provide a platform for an engaging discussion. Together, we will explore collaborative, data-driven approaches to align your operating model and organizational design with growth objectives in real-world portfolio companies.

  • Strategy alignment: discover why aligning the board and management team with your growth strategy is critical and how this alignment defines the future operating model required to scale and grow the company
  • Navigate organizational design challenges: learn how to effectively scale through acquisitions while proactively addressing common integration pitfalls in designing your future organization
  • Engage management and the board: identify the essential leadership roles and contributions from your management team and understand when and how to involve the board for alignment
  • Understand types of transformation: differentiate between operating model transformations, organizational redesigns, and restructuring efforts. Are you changing the organizing logic or refining existing structures and roles? Are you positioning the company for growth or cost reductions?
  • Change management fundamentals: explore strategies for embedding change management from the outset by involving your team in collaborative design processes and addressing challenges to change proactively
  • Real-world examples: analyze case studies of organizational changes that succeeded and those that faced challenges. What are the key risks/obstacles during implementation?
08:30 - 09:15

Human capital deep dive breakfast discussion 2 (for operating partners only): Leveraging broad-based employee ownership across the organization

Marc Jourlait

This deep dive breakfast session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How do you go about setting up employee ownership? How do you get your executives and the board to be aligned on LTI implementations?
  • How are you incentivizing your employees with it? What is the perceived value of it and how do you ensure the value of it is understood?
  • Comparing different shared ownership programs across portfolio companies
  • How effective has it been from a recruitment and retention point of view? How effective has it been to drive operational improvements?
  • Showcasing its effectiveness in building a culture of ownership that aligns with the interests of investors
  • What does the future of shared ownership and its scope look like for PE firms and portcos?

Facilitator:
Marc Jourlait, Operating Partner, The Riverside Company

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Marc Jourlait

Senior Operating Partner, The Riverside Company

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Plenary
09:15 - 09:30

PEI’s welcome and chairman’s opening remarks

09:30 - 10:10

Strategic human capital: maximizing value creation for long-hold exits

Chris Trendler

Discover actionable strategies to turn human capital into a competitive advantage, ensuring portfolio companies thrive in the long haul and achieve premium valuations at exit. Key discussion points include:

  • Building leadership pipelines to sustain performance during long hold periods
  • Aligning HR operations with strategic growth initiatives to maximize ROI
  • Enhancing organizational culture to attract and retain top talent
  • Leveraging people analytics to inform critical decision-making
  • Preparing HR functions for seamless transitions during the exit phase

Moderator:
Laura Queen, Founder and CEO, 29Bison

Panelists:
Faye McDermid, Vice President, Private Equity, Business Operations, Brookfield Asset Management
Chris Trendler, Managing Director, Head of Portfolio Talent, Madison Dearborn Partners

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Chris Trendler

Managing Director, Head of Portfolio Talent, Madison Dearborn Partners

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10:10 - 10:50

AI’s impact on the function — use cases and implementations for human capital specialists

Angela Geffre
  • Sharing practical use cases: how are you using it? What should talent operating partners be using and doing now for impact? How do you best use data with AI?
  • How will AI change the talent function in PE? What is innovative from an AI perspective in talent?
  • How are you looking at AI across job functions and its use within companies: how will workforces be impacted by it in future? What is the primary goal of generative AI for HR processes?
  • Leveraging and comparing AI tools and platforms for recruiting, selection, and assessments
  • What are your main concerns of using AI in recruitment and assessments?

Panelists:
Angela Geffre, Head of Human Capital, GrowthCurve Capital

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Angela Geffre

Head of Human Capital, GrowthCurve Capital

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10:50 - 11:20

Networking coffee break

11:20 - 12:00

CEO perspectives: the future of talent and driving value creation in PE

Dan Hawkins
  • What do CEOs want from their PE sponsors and vice versa: what do CEOs like and dislike?
  • What do CEOs think is most important in the talent value creation plan across the lifecycle?
  • What questions should operating partners and deal partners be asking during diligence to understand what is really happening in the organization?
  • What can human capital operating partners do better to assist you? Where do CEOs need the most help and least help? What are CEO expectations for a productive relationship?
  • What are the biggest talent related challenges according to CEOs?
  • Through the lens of the CEO, what are some common operating partner dos and don’ts?
  • How can CEOs be a bridge between the talent partner and the investment partner

Moderator:
Dan Hawkins, Founder and CEO, Summit Leadership Partners

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Dan Hawkins

Founder & CEO, Summit Leadership Partners

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Interactive Working Groups Series I
12:00 - 12:40

Interactive Working Group 1 (for operating partners only) — Succession planning and development for the future

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How do you go about planning for succession and transitions? How is succession planning for CEOs and new leaders changing and evolving?
  • How are longer hold periods affecting the process? What do effective models look like for new leader assimilation?
  • With a growing number of experienced executives retiring, have you been confronted with more succession-related situations?
  • How are you finding and unlocking top talent/leaders for the future? What innovative approaches have you seen at companies that are governed with an eye to the future?
  • Accelerating leadership engines internally from below the C-suite: looking at maturation of people as an added value lever
  • How can your current leaders empower top talent at all levels to maximize impact? How much guidance do you give to your CEOs on the topic of future talent?
  • Is your top talent truly building your future, or are you controlling the strategy and them?
12:00 - 12:40

Interactive Working Group 2 (for operating partners only) — Navigating talent challenges in the crucial post-close period

Sandy Fiaschetti

The first 100 days after a deal closes can make or break value creation plans (VCPs). This interactive session, designed exclusively for operating partners, dives into the pressing questions that define success in this critical period:

  • Unveiling common challenges: what are the top talent-related hurdles operating partners face immediately post-close, and why are these so pivotal to long-term success?
  • Aligning on the right priorities: how can you quickly determine if leadership teams, and key players have the skills and alignment needed to meet aggressive VCP timelines?
  • Avoiding early missteps: what actions derail leadership and team cohesion early on, and how can you pre-empt blind spots that often undermine team effectiveness?
  • Breaking down roadblocks fast: what challenges arise in assessing leaders, building trust through coaching, and creating high-performing teams, and how do you overcome them?

Facilitator:
Sandy Fiaschetti, Founder and Managing Partner, Lodestone People Consulting

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Sandy Fiaschetti

Founder and Managing Partner, Lodestone People Consulting

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12:00 - 12:40

Interactive Working Group 3 (for operating partners only) — Strategic talent selection and acquisition in the current marketplace

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How do you tactically get involved in search? How deep into the organization are you involved in recruitment?
  • What are the biggest challenges in recruiting talent in the current market?
  • Are you hiring recruiters? How do you select search partners? How have playbooks evolved in looking at resourcing and perfecting search practices?
  • What key tools/technologies are you using to facilitate referencing and candidate tracking?
  • How are you leveraging fractional and interim talent in the process?
  • Executive network management: how do you build, foster, and engage your network
  • Interview and selection: what key traits are you looking for in selecting the right talent for your portcos? Are you utilizing scorecards?
  • Can you share some key mistakes you experienced that you would not repeat?

Facilitators:
Kelsey Kemp, Director of Talent, CIVC Partners

Lunch
12:40 - 13:40

Networking lunch

12:40 - 13:40

Lunch deep dive discussion (invitation-only for operating partners): An inside look into market dynamics: employee benefits program optimization

This deep dive lunch session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

Breakouts I
13:40 - 14:20

Track 1 - Human capital transformations: showcasing real world implementations that move the needle

Ruthanne Roth , Kristin Schroeder, Karina Sobieski
  • What are the most unique and actionable initiatives you have implemented? How did you go about building these out?
  • How did these initiatives make a difference? Were any of these outcomes surprising?
  • What were the challenges you had to overcome/barriers you had to break down in carrying out your plan?
  • Were you able to consolidate and replicate this success across companies in the portfolio?

Moderator:
Ruthanne Roth, Founder and CEO, Aster Talent

Panelists:
Kristin Schroeder, Operating Partner, Talent, Welsh, Carson, Anderson & Stowe
Karina Sobieski, Managing Director, Human Capital, Clearlake Capital Group

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Ruthanne Roth

Founder and CEO, Aster Talent

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Kristin Schroeder

Operating Partner, Talent & Co-Head of Diversity and Inclusion, Welsh, Carson, Anderson & Stowe

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Karina Sobieski

Managing Director, Human Capital, Clearlake Capital Group

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13:40 - 14:20

Track 2 - Operating partner-CHRO partnerships for transformation

Cara Nealon
  • What does a great CHRO look like? What are the new capabilities of the modern CHRO?
  • How do you engage your CHROs: how do you enable best practice sharing across the CHROs in your portfolio? How do you coach CHROs to become strategic partners?
  • How do CHROs and talent partners align to address HR issues and transformations?
  • What are the biggest pain points for CHROs?
  • What are the challenges for human capital operating partners working with CHROs?
  • How can operating partners provide support in working with PE across the lifecycle? How do you enable a data-driven foundation of metrics with CHROs to drive strategic decisions?

Panelists:
Cara Nealon, Senior Vice President, North America PE Talent, Portfolio Group, Bain Capital

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Cara Nealon

Senior Vice President, Talent, Portfolio Group, Bain Capital

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Breakouts II
14:20 - 15:00

Track 3 - Optimizing performance management across the lifecycle

Jimmy Holloran, Jamie Jacobs
  • Comparing operating partner playbooks in performance management
  • How are you tracking if the talent at your portcos is making progress? How do you know when you are on the right track in moving towards progress?
  • What are the key factors leading to underperformance? What is your non success rate?
  • How do you establish realistic goals? How are you measuring success along the way?
  • How do you capture underperformance earlier in the process? How are you overcoming underperformance? What key measures do you take to address underperformance?
  • Uncovering the correlation between what is found in assessments and what then happens in performance

Panelists:
Jimmy Holloran, Partner and Head of Talent, American Industrial Partners
Jamie Jacobs, Chief Talent Officer, Oak Hill Capital
Katie Mackin, Vice President, Portfolio Talent, GS Value Accelerator, Goldman Sachs

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Jimmy Holloran

Partner, Head of Talent, American Industrial Partners

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Jamie Jacobs, American Securities

Jamie Jacobs

Chief Talent Officer, Oak Hill Capital

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14:20 - 15:00

Track 4 - Human capital due diligence done right: setting the groundwork for success

  • Understanding what human capital due diligence really is and how it impacts the VCP
  • What does your due diligence scorecard to assess talent at a company look like? What data do you gather?
  • How do you work with deal teams on talent due diligence? How do you influence the deal process?
  • Have your playbooks changed/evolved when it comes to due diligence?
  • What are the biggest challenges associated with due diligence and how do you de-risk human capital?

Moderator:
Sumeet Salwan, Co-Founder, CEO.works

15:00 - 15:20

Networking coffee break

Breakouts III
15:20 - 16:00

Track 5 - An inside look into CFO recruitment, assessments, and incentives

John Knapp
  • The modern CFO: uncovering the right traits for current times
  • What makes a good CFO candidate? What makes a CFO successful in working with PE and driving the VCP?
  • How are you recruiting, assessing, and developing CFOs? What are the biggest challenges in recruiting and selecting the right CFO today?
  • What are you doing to retain and incentivize CFOs in the current market? How have longer hold periods affected this?
  • Why do CFOs look for new opportunities? How do hybrid/remote options come into play?

Panelists:
John Knapp, Operating Director, Talent, Berkshire Partners

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John Knapp

Operating Director, Talent, Berkshire Partners

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15:20 - 16:00

Track 6 - The ROI of senior team alignment, optimization, and effectiveness

  • What does a high performing management team look like?
  • Keeping C-levels aligned and performing in the right direction as a team in a fast-paced PE environment
  • Executive team alignment: building trust and purpose; establishing alignment of purpose
  • Uncovering the ideal composition of executives: unlocking complementary skills, experiences, technical aspects, and personality traits in the C suite
  • Focusing on team mechanics and creating a shared language to drive the VCP
  • How do you identify and understand when you need a new executive team member?
  • What are the barriers for executives to achieve alignment inside the organization? How do you support them in this? What do you do when trust is broken?
Plenary
16:00 - 16:40

Uncovering the latest playbooks in executive assessments

Conor Leamy, Allison Walker
  • Leadership assessment methodologies: what are the latest innovations and perspectives in assessment?
  • Pinpointing/grasping what makes a successful portfolio executive: what are the traits that make them successful? What do you look for to evaluate whether the CEO and the management team can scale? How do you identify themes of non-success early on?
  • Comparing scorecards and predictive analytics to unlock common traits and patterns that lead to success
  • Sharing risk factors based on whether the executive has or has not worked with PE before
  • Establishing clear expectations/goals of what is needed from management teams across the hold period
  • Creating alignment on the VCP: aligning your expectations to the management team’s expectations
  • How do you understand when you need to replace an executive member?
  • How do you assess management teams while building and maintaining relationships?

Panelists:
Conor Leamy, Chief Talent Officer, Shore Capital Partners
Ali Walker, Partner, Chief Talent Officer, FTV Capital

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Conor Leamy

Chief Talent Officer, Shore Capital Partners

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Allison Walker

Partner and Chief Talent Officer, FTV Capital

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Interactive Working Groups Series II
16:50 - 17:30

Interactive Working Group 4 (for operating partners only) — Managing CEO annual reviews: operating partners share tactical guidance

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How do you do go about annual CEO evaluations? What does the review process look like?
  • What scorecards are you using for it? What do you focus on most?
  • What works best in your annual CEO review process and what does not?
  • What are key indicators of CEO performance improvement? How do you differentiate company performance vs. CEO performance?
  • How are you putting these reviews into action?
  • How do you guide your boards through it?
16:50 - 17:30

Interactive Working Group 5 (for operating partners only) — Accelerating change management as a driving force in human capital value creation

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How have your change management processes evolved and accelerated over the last couple of years?
  • How do you build change in a 3-5 year period across culture, tech, integrations, and upscaling the C-suite? How do you build it without breaking it?
  • What are the dos and don’ts in driving change in looking at communication with the company being acquired, advising C levels and meeting HR teams?
  • Can you share specific examples of systems and infrastructure implementations that were rolled out to scale faster?
16:50 - 17:30

Interactive Working Group 6 (for operating partners only) — Executive compensation and incentive trends: benchmarking and comparing strategies

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How do you best deal with executive compensation, negotiations, and requests?
  • What types of equity/compensation packages are your executives asking for? When do you give equity and when do you not?
  • How effectively are you doing comp benchmarking? What are the latest and most creative compensation packages you are seeing?
  • How are you motivating and incentivizing leaders to retain them in this environment? Do you compensate based on impact?
  • Inflationary and economic pressures on compensation — how do you get the best talent in this market while staying within budget?
  • What do you expect future trends in management team compensation to look like?
  • What are key differences and similarities in looking at comp models across sectors and sizes of companies?
End of day 1
17:30 - 18:30

Networking cocktail reception

Agenda

Day 2 - Wednesday 26th

07:30 - 09:25

Registration and breakfast

Think Tank Series II: talent value creation war rooms
08:00 - 08:45

Think Tank 1 - Working with third parties: comparing notes on resources and tools (for operating partners only)

Invitation-only think tank for full-time PE/VC operating partners and talent partners. These closed-door discussions will allow you to learn and share best practices in human capital portfolio operations with your peers.

08:00 - 08:45

Think Tank 2 - Unlocking value creation through new hire success (for operating partners only)

David Cohen

Facilitators:
David Cohen, Partner, Human Capital, Kelso & Company
Nicole Weil, Manager, Operational Effectiveness, Kelso & Company

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David Cohen

Partner, Human Capital, Kelso & Company

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08:00 - 08:45

Think Tank 3 - Executive team alignment and purpose (for operating partners only)

Maggie van de Griend

Facilitator:
Maggie van de Griend, Managing Director, Portfolio Talent, Warburg Pincus

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Maggie van de Griend

Managing Director, Portfolio Talent, Warburg Pincus

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Breakfast Deep Dives Series II
08:45 - 09:25

Human capital deep dive breakfast discussion 3 (for operating partners only): Taking a deeper dive into organizations: health and high performance beyond the C-Suite

This deep dive breakfast discussion designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • In what types of situations is it critical to get involved at deeper levels of the organization to drive performance?
  • What are the critical organization levers to pull to drive performance, including effectiveness of processes, structures, roles, talent, leadership and culture?
  • How can you impact organization health and performance by speeding the integration of new acquisitions?
  • Dos and don’ts post deal: what particular people and organization dynamics do you pay attention to?
08:45 - 09:25

Human capital deep dive breakfast discussion 4 (for operating partners only): Leadership coaching and development: unique guidelines for PE firms

Ted Bililies, Jason McDannold

This deep dive breakfast discussion designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • Building leadership coaching and development programs for PE portco executives
  • How would you define successful leadership? What are key qualities of the most impactful leaders at your companies?
  • As a talent partner, how can and how do you best serve as a coach across the lifecycle?
  • What is the level of coaching needed? What do you focus on most in current times? What are the biggest challenges associated with coaching?
  • What is the ROI of coaching and leadership effectiveness? How does it accelerate the VCP?
  • What are key differences and similarities in working with different leaders across sectors?

Facilitators:
Ted Bililies, Partner and Managing Director, AlixPartners
Jason McDannold, Americas Co-Lead, Private Equity Partner and Managing Director, AlixPartners

Ted Bililies, AlixPartners

Ted Bililies

Partner and Managing Director, AlixPartners

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Jason McDannold

Partner & Managing Director, Americas Co-Lead of Private Equity, AlixPartners

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08:45 - 09:25

Human capital deep dive breakfast discussion 5 (for operating partners only): Leveraging tech, data, and workforce analytics for the human capital function

This deep dive breakfast discussion designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How are talent teams truly moving the needle with tech? Where does tech and data science provide the most and least value and what does the future hold?
  • What metrics are you using throughout the different phases of the investment lifecycle?
  • How do you get objective data? How do you develop KPIs? How are you integrating AI into your data and reporting systems?
  • What tools are you using when it comes to automating talent processes?
Plenary
09:25 - 09:30

Chairman’s welcome

09:30 - 10:10

Heads of value creation insights: comparing and building human capital operating partner models

  • How important is the talent function in your overall value creation playbook? How do you define the mandate of a human capital operating partner?
  • Comparing team models: what makes a great talent partner/function?
  • How are you looking to build and potentially expand the talent function now and in future?
  • How is your value creation team setup? What do you look for in an operating partner that adds value to the team? How are you finding/selecting the right operating partner talent?
  • How do other operating partners work best with talent partners on your team?
  • What are the biggest talent related pain points at your portcos? What are the biggest talent related success stories you can share?
10:10 - 10:50

Defining your role as a human capital operating partner: driving impact and value

Kelly Carlson, Steven Maxwell
  • Understand how to communicate and drive value with both the leaders of your firm and the portfolio companies
  • How are you interacting with investment partners? What are the biggest challenges and opportunities in engaging with deal teams?
  • How are you impacting your companies with a closer level of engagement and a deeper and more programmatic level of support?
  • How do you showcase your value as a talent partner? How do you quantify the success and ROI of your function?
  • How is the role of the human capital operating partner evolving? What does great look like?
  • How do you manage the needs of the portcos with those of your PE colleagues?
  • How do you structure and build a function that is fit for purpose for your firm?
  • How are you working with other functions to be an integral part of the value creation team?

Panelists:
Kelly Carlson, Managing Director, Head of Talent, STG Partners
Steven Maxwell, Senior Vice President, Portfolio Human Capital, Audax Private Equity

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Kelly Carlson

Managing Director, Head of Talent, STG Partners

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Steven Maxwell

Senior Vice President, Portfolio Human Capital, Audax Private Equity

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10:50 - 11:10

Networking break

Plenary
11:10 - 11:50

Working with founder-led company CEOs: the keys to alignment and success

Emily Azevedo
  • Uncovering and assessing the strengths and weaknesses that set founders apart in working with PE
  • How do you best leverage founder strengths to drive and accelerate the VCP? What does your engagement and support model look like?
  • How are the challenges and playbooks different in working with founder led companies?
  • How do you best manage cultural and operational transitions at founder led companies?
  • How do you deal with pushback and founder CEO blind spots to ensure alignment?

Panelists:
Emily Azevedo, Partner and Head of Talent, Mainsail Partners

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Emily Azevedo

Operating Partner and Head of Talent, Mainsail Partners

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11:50 - 12:00

PE talent partner presentation: key tips for success

Interactive Working Groups Series III
12:00 - 12:40

Interactive Working Group 7 (for operating partners only) — Harnessing culture as a driving force for value creation

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • How do you ensure the portco culture is not negatively impacted by the PE firm?
  • What are some key tactics in your playbook to understand, define, evolve and strengthen the culture at your portcos?
  • How are you assessing culture during the due diligence and post-deal phase? What are imminent action items needed in the post-deal phase
  • What methods and culture diagnostic tools are you using?
  • How are you leveraging the management team to positively impact culture?
  • Sharing examples of how culture has an immediate and direct impact on the VCP
12:00 - 12:40

Interactive Working Group 8 (for operating partners only) — The keys to recruiting commercial leaders to unlock growth

Kate Griffin

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • Recruiting CROs: how are you finding commercial talent? What are the challenges of recruiting commercial talent in the current marketplace?
  • What makes a great commercial leader? How do you identify the right profiles and traits for PE to deliver revenue growth and accelerate value creation?
  • What newly created commercial roles are you seeing at your companies?
  • How are you developing and retaining commercial talent at your companies?

Facilitator:
Kate Griffin, Director, Portfolio Talent, Bain Capital

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Kate Griffin

Director, Portfolio Talent, Bain Capital

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12:00 - 12:40

Interactive Working Group 9 (for operating partners only) — Dissecting labor costs and its impact on your investment thesis

This session designed solely for operating partners will allow the audience to join an interactive discussion with designated facilitators.

  • As you look at team scores, when should you pay up more for talent vs. not
  • What are the latest trends in looking at labor cost data?
  • Understand best practices in labor cost management for your companies
  • Uncover labor cost management related to org structures, dynamics, and deployment
  • Sharing success stories about its impact on profitability
Lunch
12:40 - 13:40

Networking lunch

12:40 - 13:40

Women in human capital value creation lunch (invitation-only for operating partners)

This closed-door lunch discussion will explore what it’s like being a woman in PE/VC portfolio operations:

  • Sharing challenges, tips, and strategies for your career paths as women in value creation
  • Building credibility and trust with the deal teams, management teams, and your value creation teams – what are some ways you’ve found success in doing that?
  • What are some of the strengths women have that make you uniquely positioned to excel in this space? What are some of the challenges we should be mindful of and how have you tackled these obstacles?
  • What are key initiatives tied to women’s leadership at your portfolio companies?
Breakouts IV
13:40 - 14:20

Track 7 - The evolution of board composition and board performance management

Dana Allen
  • Winning the war for tech talent in today’s market: how are you dealing with it?
  • Recruiting CTOs: what makes a good tech leader? How do you identify the right profiles for PE to deliver and accelerate digital value creation?
  • With the dawn of AI, how are labor force and tech skill set requirements changing? What does the future hold?
  • What newly created tech roles are you seeing at your companies?

Panelists:
Dana Allen, Managing Director, Talent, Gauge Capital  

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Dana Allen

Managing Director, Talent, Gauge Capital

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13:40 - 14:20

Track 8 - Progressive approaches to hiring impactful tech talent at your companies

  • What does the future look like in response to the latest developments in the macro environment? How are you managing that now and preparing for it looking forward? What are you seeing already?
  • How is the current fundraising environment shaping PE and the human capital function in PE? How has your talent function evolved in response to this?
  • What will we be seeing over the next 5 years as your roles and playbooks continue to evolve?
  • How are you innovating and de-risking human capital now and with an eye to the future?
Plenary
14:20 - 15:00

State of the industry and the future of the PE talent function

  • What does the future look like in response to the latest developments in the macro environment? How are you managing that now and preparing for it looking forward? What are you seeing already?
  • How is the current fundraising environment shaping PE and the human capital function in PE? How has your talent function evolved in response to this?
  • What will we be seeing over the next 5 years as your roles and playbooks continue to evolve?
  • How are you innovating and de-risking human capital now and with an eye to the future?
End of conference
15:00 - 15:05

Chairman’s closing remarks

Pre-Event Resources

 

For speaking opportunities, contact Marc Mele at marc.m@pei.group or call +1 646 581 9295.

Dana Allen

Managing Director, Talent, Gauge Capital

Emily Azevedo

Operating Partner and Head of Talent, Mainsail Partners

Steven Berman

Vice President, Executive Search, Accel-KKR

Ted Bililies, AlixPartners

Ted Bililies

Partner and Managing Director, AlixPartners

Elizabeth Blake

Operations Vice President, Human Capital, Trive Capital

Kristin Patrick

Senior Operating Partner, Human Capital, New State Capital Partners

Kelly Carlson

Managing Director, Head of Talent, STG Partners

David Cohen

Partner, Human Capital, Kelso & Company

Wes Cole

Vice President, Portfolio Talent Lead, Goldman Sachs

Camille DeLaite

Operating Partner, Talent, Charlesbank Capital Partners

Mara Edgar

Managing Director, Human Capital, The Riverside Company

Sandy Fiaschetti

Founder and Managing Partner, Lodestone People Consulting

Angela Geffre

Head of Human Capital, GrowthCurve Capital

Trish Gilbert

Chief Talent Officer, Wind Point Partners

Kate Griffin

Director, Portfolio Talent, Bain Capital

Dan Hawkins

Founder & CEO, Summit Leadership Partners

Jimmy Holloran

Partner, Head of Talent, American Industrial Partners

Jamie Jacobs, American Securities

Jamie Jacobs

Chief Talent Officer, Oak Hill Capital

Marc Jourlait

Senior Operating Partner, The Riverside Company

John Knapp

Operating Director, Talent, Berkshire Partners

Conor Leamy

Chief Talent Officer, Shore Capital Partners

Steven Maxwell

Senior Vice President, Portfolio Human Capital, Audax Private Equity

Jason McDannold

Partner & Managing Director, Americas Co-Lead of Private Equity, AlixPartners

Cara Nealon

Senior Vice President, Talent, Portfolio Group, Bain Capital

Ruthanne Roth

Founder and CEO, Aster Talent

Kristin Schroeder

Operating Partner, Talent & Co-Head of Diversity and Inclusion, Welsh, Carson, Anderson & Stowe

Karina Sobieski

Managing Director, Human Capital, Clearlake Capital Group

Katie Solomon, Genstar Capital

Katie Solomon

Managing Director, Talent Management, Genstar Capital

Chris Trendler

Managing Director, Head of Portfolio Talent, Madison Dearborn Partners

Maggie van de Griend

Managing Director, Portfolio Talent, Warburg Pincus

Allison Walker

Partner and Chief Talent Officer, FTV Capital

John Weaver

Senior Director, Risk International

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Private Equity International’s Operating Partners Forums are a unique blend of networking, collaboration, and thought leadership between private equity operating partners, portfolio operations teams, and sponsors.

Each event is custom designed to encourage conversation about value creation best practices, relationship building, and knowledge sharing across functional areas on the most pressing issues facing investment and portfolio companies. Access to the Forum is limited to value creation experts from private equity firms and sponsors.

For more information on ways to engage with PEI’s Operating Partners community, please contact Lawrence Dvorchik at lawrence.d@pei.group or call on +1 (646) 545-4429

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Connect with the brightest leaders in human capital value creation to exchange ideas, solve challenges, and benchmark strategies to improve your day-to-day operations.

 

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Operating Partners Human Capital Forum Welcome Reception and Dinner (invitation-only)

Monday, March 24, 2025
5:30 – 9:00 pm
Tavern on the Green, 67th Street & Central Park West

Begin building connections over craft cocktails and gourmet fare before the conference kicks off. A relaxed welcome reception ensures you’ll find familiar faces over the following two days. Then, meet other human capital operating partners in a private networking dinner to discuss the industry, share ideas, and develop Forum goals.

Operating Partners Human Capital Forum Day 1 Grand Reception

Tuesday, March 25, 2025
5:30 – 6:30 pm
Convene, 117 W 46th St

Have a drink on us as you debrief your day with other Forum attendees. Hear what’s on everyone’s mind after a full day of content, and compare goals for the following day.

Human Capital Deep Dive Breakfasts (operating partners only)

Wednesday, March 26, 2025
8:45 – 9:25am
Convene, 117 W 46th St

Examine specific human capital challenges in these casual breakfast discussions. Topics will be determined ahead of time and announced in our event agenda.

Women in PE Portfolio Operations Lunch (invitation-only)

Wednesday, March 26, 2025
12:40 – 1:40pm
Convene, 117 W 46th St

Join this interactive session for an inside look at challenges and opportunities in women’s leadership. This is a closed-door lunch discussion intended for women in PE.

Sessions designed for collaboration

Think Tanks

Put your heads together with other operating partners to examine niche areas of human capital value creation. With crowd-sourced discussion topics, these peer-led sessions will provide personalized takeaways.

Interactive Working Groups

Hear how your peers are navigating specific facets of the talent function. These interactive discussions, facilitated by our expert speaking faculty, will provide a closer look at specific topics in human capital value creation.

“As someone who is building out the talent function within my firm currently, I found valuable insights from the speakers and attendees. Being in a role that is fairly new to the private equity world makes events like this exceptionally helpful as we learn and grow the talent function together as a community.”

Kelie Morgan
Director of Talent Acquisition

Permanent Equity

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Custom solutions for your business challenges

The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlight

Assessing CEOs and management teams across the lifecycle

  • Uncovering the best leadership assessments and tools to utilize with management teams
  • Predicting what makes executives successful in private equity
  • How do you assess management teams in the due diligence phase?
  • How do you approach the onboarding process?
  • How do you identify and understand when you need a new executive member?
  • How do you assess and engage with management teams while building and maintaining relationships both during the 100 days and beyond?
  • What do portco executives think is most important in the value creation plan across the lifecycle?

Led by functional experts:

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The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlight - Day 1

Leveraging references as a tactical component in your human capital toolbox

  • Operating partners share lessons learned: what works best and what doesn’t when it comes to utilizing references?
  • Sharing strategic elements of forensic referencing to make the right decisions about candidates.
  • Discussing off sheet and back-channel referencing: how are you doing it and what resources and tools are you utilizing for it?
  • What are the long-term benefits and advantages of applying strategic methodologies to references? Do you outsource it or do it in house?
  • What tools and technologies are most effective to facilitate referencing and candidate tracking?
  • How do you protect the confidentiality in handling the process?

Agenda highlight - Day 2

Strategic talent acquisition across functional areas: sharing playbooks beyond C-suite level hiring

  • Recruiting and hiring top talent across finance, tech, HR, and sales from leadership to front-line.
  • How do you ensure your hires fit the value creation plan, investment strategy, nuances of the job, and company culture designed to succeed?
  • What are key similarities and differences across various industries/sectors of investment?
  • Sharing war stories, networks, and cost-effective methods that work
  • What is your greatest challenge when it comes to recruiting in this environment? How do you get searches done faster?

Featuring:

Dina DeMarco

Division President - Private Equity Talent Solutions, Hueman

Reid Terry

Director of Talent, Trivest Partners

Search & Recruitment

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Organizational Design

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The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlight

Workforce management as a driving force in human capital value creation

  • Understanding the most important nuances of broader workforce evaluation.
  • How to scale rapidly with change readiness at all levels within your organizations: uncovering how to fully activate talent and work together in new ways.
  • Looking at productivity deeper into the organization; KPIs across functions; looking at your top and bottom performers across functions.
  • Setting up a data driven process to make decisions when it comes to labor.
  • Getting your broader workforce aligned on the value creation plan.
  • How to empower and enable middle managers to align the workforce.
  • How are you strategically allocating people and resources and empowering your top talent to maximize impact?

Agenda highlight

Organizational design and effectiveness to scale for long term growth

  • What are the latest trends in org design and how do you think about it?
  • What are key indicators of org health? What are the most common indicators that a new org set-up is needed and how do you go about doing it?
  • Who do you involve in the org design and strategy process? How do you ensure clarity in its purpose? What is required from a leadership standpoint to achieve your org design goals?
  • What are the biggest risks and challenges in the implementation process? How do you deal with resistance and disruptive factors?
  • How do you assess if the organizational design is delivering on its intended purpose? Are there specific KPIs that you utilize?
  • What are the long-term implications of org design: how does it allow you to scale over 3-4 years? How do you align it to the value creation plan and investment thesis?
  • Sharing lessons learned and what is needed in different stages of the investment lifecycle.

Agenda highlights

Led by industry specialists:

Organizational Design

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Leadership & Coaching

Custom solutions for your business challenges

The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlights

Succession planning: how to develop the next generation of leaders

  • What is the role of CEOs and founders in looking at succession plans?
  • How are founders and CEOs thinking about the next generation internally? What should they be doing to teach and mentor for future success?
  • What practices should organizations implement to develop the next generation into leaders?
  • What are innovative approaches to how companies are governed with an eye to the future and getting the most out of your top talent?

 

Influencing and motivating portfolio company CEOs: what makes executives successful in current times

  • Comparison of traits that make up great portfolio CEOs: high performing vs. low performing.
  • How do you approach composition and motivation of high-performing management teams to drive long-term success for your company?
  • How do you generate alignment with the leadership team on the value creation plan – distilling it down to key action, accountability and then tracking progress/productivity?
  • How do you help CEOs and deal teams work together most effectively? How can human capital operating partners help?
  • How do you motivate the leadership team to be at their best together?

Human capital operating partners think tank: Working with founder-led company CEOs

Led by your peers, this closed-door discussion will allow you to learn and share best practices of successful human capital and talent operating partners.

Agenda highlights

Led by industry players

Leadership & Coaching

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DE&I

Custom solutions for your business challenges

The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlight - Day 1

Pushing DE&I higher up in the value creation agenda

  • Current state vs future state; how do you think, define, and map out DE&I.
  • How is the current economic environment affecting your DE&I initiatives? What has changed in the past 12 months?
  • What initiatives are you taking to increase diverse representation at your portfolio companies? What recommendation do you give your companies on DE&I?
  • Board diversity: sharing practical examples of what needs to be built out.
  • How do you identify and utilize your DE&I metrics? How do you measure diversity across the portfolio to make sure you’re held accountable?
  • How do you work with CHROs on DE&I initiatives? What is actionable?

Agenda highlight - Day 2

Women in PE portfolio operations lunch

This closed-door discussion will explore what it’s like being a woman in PE and VC portfolio operations:

  • Exploring career paths, development, and how to position yourself as female leaders.
  • What are the biggest challenges and missed opportunities when it comes to women’s leadership in PE?
  • What traits and qualities do you search for and value most in women leaders at your companies?
  • What initiatives are you driving for women on boards across portcos? What can be done better?
  • How to best support incoming women leaders at portfolio companies, especially if they are new to being in a male dominated industry.

Featuring:

Jamie Jacobs, American Securities

Jamie Jacobs

Chief Talent Officer, Oak Hill Capital

Melissa Mounce

Managing Director, Leadership Talent and Diversity, GTCR

DE&I

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Compensation & Benefits

Custom solutions for your business challenges

The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlight - Day 1

Strategic integration of human resources in value creation through employee benefit program optimization and cost savings

  • How can Human Resources establish a strategic role in driving measurable cost savings aligned with the value-creation strategy goals of the private equity firm?
  • What creative solutions can be identified within employee benefit programs to ensure cost savings while maintaining fiduciary responsibility?
  • In the pursuit of achieving savings, how can a “do no harm” approach be implemented to avoid negative impacts on jobs and employee satisfaction?
  • What strategies can be employed to develop metrics that effectively measure material returns resulting from Human Resources led cost-saving initiatives, and how can Human Resources stay adaptable to market dynamics during this process?

Featuring:

Agenda highlight - Day 2

Workforce compensation: uncovering modern trends, models, and metrics

  • As PE becomes more of a mature industry, how do you best deal with executive compensation, negotiations, and requests?
  • How effectively are you doing comp benchmarking up and down the ranks?
  • What are the latest and most creative compensation packages you are seeing? What types of equity/compensation packages is your workforce asking for?
  • How are you motivating and incentivizing employees across the different levels to retain them in this environment?
  • Equity vs. non equity in lower levels.
  • Inflationary and economic pressures on compensation — how do you get the best talent in this market while staying within budget?
  • Large cap vs. mid vs. small: sharing key differences and similarities in comp models across companies.

Compensation & Benefits

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Culture

Custom solutions for your business challenges

The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlight - Day 1

Portfolio case study: establishing a new culture with a new executive team to drive value and create One Company growth

  • Hear a case study from a Cloud Services portfolio company on how the ELT led a rebranding and culture change program to excite the employee base and drive value.
  • Learn how to conduct a culture change program from diagnostic to defining the new culture to launching the new culture to reinforcing the values and measuring success.
  • Learn how data and people analytics, a campaign, leadership actions, culture champion network, and refreshing talent practices drove adoption of the new culture.

Agenda highlight - Day 2

Transforming culture at your companies: what does good look like?

  • Company culture is always a critical component for driving value in companies, what are you leading now and through the next year related to culture?
  • Looking at key elements of culture in the due diligence and post deal phase.
  • What does a healthy culture look like at your companies?
  • How do you align culture to the value creation plan? What are the biggest challenges in this area?
  • How do you maintain a healthy culture in a remote/hybrid world and across geographies?

Featuring functional specialists:

Culture

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Technologies

Custom solutions for your business challenges

The Operating Partners Human Capital Forum offers portfolio operations teams a comprehensive analysis of talent value creation. As the demand for human capital rapidly increases, join industry names to network, collaborate, and determine the most effective ways to scale the talent function. Learn how other firms are driving growth through assessment, compensation, culture, DEI, leadership, organizational design, recruitment, technologies, and more.

Agenda highlight - Day 1

Accelerating decision making through data and analytics for the human capital functional: tracking done right

  • How do you develop KPIs and what are your leading human capital indicators of performance? What macro and labor data trends are you paying close attention to?
  • AI, KPIs, metrics and data science for talent development and assessments: technologies used to build and assess teams.
  • What key metrics are you using for HR diligence and the onboarding process? What are you doing to enrich your firm and your investment partners with data and analytics?
  • What metrics are you using throughout the different phases of the investment lifecycle?
  • What tools are you using to automate talent processes?
  • Sharing data driven insights to improve your operations cross functionally
  • Efficiency metrics: how do you track your own talent team’s ROI and performance?
  • Uncovering key differences in metrics and tracking across sectors of investment.

Agenda highlight - Day 2

AI’s impact on the talent function in PE and the future workforce

  • How will AI change the talent function in PE? What is innovative from an AI perspective in talent? Will AI become more prominent within the talent function?
  • Sharing practical use cases: how are you using it? What should talent operating partners be using and doing now for impact?
  • How have you or your portfolio companies been leveraging generative AI on the recruiting/interviewing, assessment, or professional development front? How do you best use data with AI?
  • How are you looking at AI across job functions and the different levels within companies: how will workforces and headcount be impacted by it in future?
  • How do you create better workforce alignment around AI? How can CHROs help their workforces better grasp and work with AI?

Featuring:

Albert Vazquez-Agusti

Partner, Sway Ventures

Technologies

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Meet the largest community of talent operators

Private Equity International’s Operating Partners Forums are a unique blend of networking, collaboration, and thought leadership between private equity operating partners, portfolio operations teams, and sponsors.

Each event is custom designed to encourage conversation about value creation best practices, relationship building, and knowledge sharing across functional areas on the most pressing issues facing investment and portfolio companies. Access to the Forum is limited to value creation experts from private equity firms and sponsors.

For more information on ways to engage with PEI’s Operating Partners community, please contact Lawrence Dvorchik at lawrence.d@pei.group or call on +1 (646) 545-4429

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